From what I've heard, the demons have been too busy with politics this past year or so, they've not had time to be playing with smurf toys..
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allabord4jah
16 Jun 2013
"You brothres are probably right. We are so close to the end of Satan's rule, that the demons are out there expressing themselves through his political whores. Britain sides with the U.S. Then Russia sides with Iran, North Korea, China and etc. They are all his dupes,! I see that the "pushing" is getting more and more aggressive. Did you all read about Iran, the people and the demons all voted for a more tolerant cleric towards the West."
http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/9647-more-demon-inspired-utterances/
defender of truth
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Demon attacks on JW in past, where'd they go?
by thedepressedsoul inin the 80's and 90's (maybe even earlier) i remember hearing lots of witnesses talk about "demon attacks".
whether it was someone studying the bible who then started having strange things happen in their house to people bringing stuff home from yard sales and getting personal attacks and horrible dreams resulting in them dystroying stuff they brought home or getting rid of it.. .
i also remember hearing a sister say she had to pray in a home with a study because the study started to get attacked.
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Has DocHouse LEFT.....?
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JW.ORG logo on EVERYTHING
by dynamiterose77 infine line between idolotry and branding... just sayin.... .
i'm just seeing a lot of home-made or print on demand site items with jw.org logos pasted all over.
as an art director, i laugh, because it's hideous.
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Dynamiterose, even some jw's would agree--
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/282154/3/JW-Org-Blitz#.U-xt_l2t-o8 -
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Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?
by defender of truth ina poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .
"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.
apathy allows it.
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Bruh2012 said:
"YHWH is not evil. He...may have created Satan to do evil under his control- but I can't confirm that."
Isn't that like saying:
'Such-and-such a mafia boss was not evil, but he gave permission to those who worked for him to do evil things'?
How would that argument hold up in a court of law?
Please watch this video discussing the account of Job..
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYzsE1UByFY&fulldescription=1&hl=en&client=mv-google&gl=US
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Then take a look at these videos for more on the God/mafia boss analogy. You may find it interesting. Please let us know what you thought, seeing as I've taken the time to look for these for you.
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(part 1)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Puyykf3FwmU&fulldescription=1&client=mv-google&gl=US&hl=en
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Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?
by defender of truth ina poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .
"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.
apathy allows it.
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EVIL
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Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?
by defender of truth ina poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .
"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.
apathy allows it.
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KateWild said, from the OP: "For me evilness is more classified with intentional acts to harm deliberately out of vengence, anger, malice and even pleasure. To me that is what evil stands for. Indifference is something comepletely different in my view."
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/archive/news/passers-by-ignored-dying-child-who-was-run-over-twice-in-street-in-china/story-e6frf7lf-1226169281030?nk=fb85863a4d365a1d96ef8e9972ac4117
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9lKUwBCIBzA
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God is love, but if you dont love him back he will slaughter you!
by BU2B inthis was one of the things that first got me thinking.
i noticed how in books like "draw close to jehovah" they paint god as a loving, warm, just god who does not desire any to die.
i could not love him at all, let alone with my whole heart.
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Cofty--
"Similarly, Christians generally end up acknowledging that there is suffering, but rather than amending their speculative, unprovable view of God (i.e. that He’s omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent) they suggest that He must have a reason for allowing suffering, even if we can’t know it. To me, this looks uncannily like Stockholm Syndrome. However unpleasant or abusive God must be if their beliefs are correct, and however responsible He is for their current suffering, they still want to justify His actions and excuse His crimes. They believe He could stop all their suffering, they know He doesn’t, but nevertheless, He must be a nice guy and have His reasons.
Alternatively, why not try Battered person syndrome on for size, to explain why Christians continue to worship a God who, if He exists and has anything like the power they believe, looks very much like a serial abuser. Have a look at these common beliefs and attitudes:
*The abused believes that the violence was his or her fault.
*The abused has an inability to place the responsibility for the violence elsewhere.
*The abused fears for his/her life and/or the lives of his/her children (if present)."
http://recoveringagnostic.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/do-christians-suffer-from-stockholm-syndrome/ -
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Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?
by defender of truth ina poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .
"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.
apathy allows it.
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Did what I said to Fernando in the last post make any sense at all?
My illustrations generally suck, or they are very unclear.
The 'warning the child many years ago' was meant to represent the Bible from some believers perspectives, being a very old book and supposedly a warning for today.
The 'poison' was meant to be whatever we are supposedly doing to bring all of these disasters and illnesses upon ourselves.
The 'antidote' was meant to represent Gods message to us, telling us how we should be acting and what we should believe in order to fix all the worlds problems, as supposedly taught in the Bible according to people like Fernando..
And finally, the 'child either failing to understand or read the instructions to the antidote' was meant to be the human race (from a Bible believers perspective) not being able to understand how to cure all of our problems by means of the supposed ''one true message" in the Bible.
My point was: even taking all of these things into account hypothetically speaking, that God of the Bible's inaction still seems sickeningly callous and unjust, even if people in general are 'ignoring the gospel'.
(Obviously the poison in the dogs water bowl represented how we have supposedly been responsible for all animal suffering, deliberately or otherwise, yet God allows them to reap the consequences of our 'wicked course'.)
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Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?
by defender of truth ina poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .
"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.
apathy allows it.
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defender of truth
"Of course your point is valid defender of truth.
And I'm asserting that the Kingdom will benefit humans and animals alike, in ways we may find hard to imagine until we are more familiar with the solution/medicine/map."
Your child has just swallowed some poisonous liquid that you left out (but many years ago you warned them not to touch it). Would you sit there and watch as your child, failing to understand the instructions (or just not being able to read them) on how to prepare the antidote, dies horribly of poisoning?
(As a side note, you also watched as the child deliberately poured some of the poison into the dogs water bowl. Would you just let the dog die, or clean the bowl?)
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Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!
by exWTslave inatheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.
jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.
interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.
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ExWTslave said: "It's sad when people stop believing in the existence of God, automatically their humaneness disappear."
http://thaumaturgical.com/a-big-list-of-atheist-charities/
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http://www.salon.com/2014/02/11/20_amazing_quotes_from_atheists_that_prove_religion_isnt_necessary_for_a_meaningful_life_partner/